[ULTRAMONKEY-USERS] moRe: are the directors firewalled?

[Glen Kendell]

Matthew is right, use Etch!  The site is out of date in this regard.


On 12/20/07 7:12 AM, "Rick Graves" <gravesricharde at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Matthew,
> 
>> Your best option would be to get an up-to-date etch
>> CD. 
> 
> I've had one all along.  Etch installs for me no
> problem. 
> 
> The ultramonkey site is all about Sarge.
> 
> http://www.ultramonkey.org/
> 
> Here is the first sentence from the first news item on
> that page:
> 
>> New heartbeat packages have been made available for
> Ultra Monkey 3 on both Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3
> [offsite] and Debian Sarge [offsite] in order to
> address a bug in ldirectord which caused it to die
> when connect checks were used.
> 
> Or note the content of this URL:
> 
> http://www.ultramonkey.org/download/3/debian.sarge/ipvsadm/
> 
> As far as I am aware, nowhere on the ultramonkey web
> site does it say you can use etch.
> 
> Is the ultramonkey site just out of date?
> 
>> Hope that helps,
> 
> Absolutely.  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> 
> --- Matthew Newton <mcn4 at leicester.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 12:56:25AM -0800, Rick
>> Graves wrote:
>>> In general, there is big emphasis on applying
>> updates
>>> to installed software.  Does that not apply to
>>> directors running Sarge?
>> 
>> Your problem is that Debian stable is not sarge any
>> more - it is
>> now etch. Sarge is old and goes out of maintenance
>> at Easter 2008.
>> 
>> So when your sarge install CD tries to download
>> stuff from stable
>> it's going to get confused and try and install half
>> the stuff from
>> etch. The good thing about Debian is that you _can_
>> install sarge
>> and then upgrade it to etch without a reinstall. The
>> bad thing is
>> that the middle of an install is not the best place
>> to be doing
>> it ;-).
>> 
>>> It eventually gets to a message that I am
>> attempting to remove
>>> the kernel version that I am using.  The message
>> says this is
>>> dangerous and recommends against doing this unless
>> I know what
>>> I am doing and I am prepared to hose my system.
>> Since I do
>>> not know what I am doing and I do not want to hose
>> this
>>> install, I answer "No". Then there are some unmet
>> dependency
>>> error messages.
>> 
>> If this is a machine you just installed specially
>> for this task,
>> then say yes anyway. I've not had this "dangerous"
>> task fail in
>> several years now, though it _is_ inherently
>> "dangerous". The
>> worst you'll have to do is to wipe and install
>> again.
>> 
>> Your best option would be to get an up-to-date etch
>> CD. The
>> ldirectord and heartbeat packages are more recent in
>> etch, and
>> everything should run more smoothly. I actually had
>> to use the
>> etch versions of ldirectord/heartbeat on sarge until
>> I upgraded
>> the directors here - moving to etch makes things
>> much simpler.
>> 
>> If you really can't get an etch CD, install sarge
>> but don't let it
>> try and update at the end of the install procedure.
>> You can
>> somehow, but I'm afraid I can't remember exactly how
>> (maybe try
>> the "specify the apt sources manually" and then
>> leaving the file
>> blank). After the install, follow the instructions
>> on the debian
>> site to upgrade to etch.
>> 
>> When you've got etch installed you want to install
>> the heartbeat-2
>> and ldirectord-2 packages with something like
>> 
>>   aptitude install heartbeat-2 ldirectord-2
>> 
>> Hope that helps,
>> 
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Matthew Newton <mcn4 at le.ac.uk>
>> 
>> Network Support and UNIX Systems Administrator,
>> Network Services,
>> I.T. Services, University of Leicester, Leicester
>> LE1 7RH, United Kingdom
>> 
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>> <cchelp at le.ac.uk>
>> 
> 
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