I have debug turned on and passwords are getting logged. I tried using log_passwd never in my perdition.conf file but it seemed to mess up perdition in a strange way (the ssl stuff was ignored). How do I have debugging turned on but not display passwords? TIA. -Ron -- Ron D. Parachoniak UBC Physics & Astronomy Dept Ph. (604) 838-6437 Systems Manager 6224 Agricultural Road Fax (604) 822-5324 rap(a)phas.ubc.ca Vancouver, BC, Canada V6T 1Z1